Do you have additional suggestions
for bicycle and pedestrian access along the project corridor?
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-Consider a bicycle left turn lane
and/or "bike box" northbound at Market.
-Providing a direct bicycle/pedestrian ramp linking to Water Street in both
directions is a unique opportunity to improve connections to the Transit
Station and proposed Coal Tower trail. Even a set of stairs with a "bike
gutter" would help, as long as alternative ADA access continues to exist.
-A pedestrian access way onto the Mall around the Pavilion is a unique
opportunity to improve access during gated Pavilion events.
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The multiuse path should be visual
distinguished from the motorized vehicular traffic lanes with a different style
of pavement, or at least paint. It should also be protected with a raised
median.
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I like the idea of a dedicated,
wide, pedestrian/bike path that is separated from the traffic with some kind of
low, vertical divider. This seems safest
for all the kids and walking/biking people that use the bridge. Typical bike lanes feel narrow and I think
discourge some people from biking, especially across bridges that feel tight
and congested anyway.
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Higher railing. Wider ped path. Bike
lane.
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Consider wide multi-use paths on
each side separated from car traffic rather than sidewalks and bike lanes.
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Bike lanes are a must! I bike to and from work every day and sharing
the lane with large vehicles and buses is just not practical.
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(see above).
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Dedicated bike lanes in both
directions, and wider/safer/more pleasant sidewalks. A planted median seems
like a waste of space.
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Increase pedestrian safety by
removing Left turn into Graves St. when heading South on the bridge. Likewise prohibit Left turn from Graves St.
onto bridge (heading South). This would
allow for a pedestrian island in the middle of the bridge where the current
pedestrian crossing at Graves St. is.
9th St (bridge) is currently too wide for safe pedestrian crossing.
Left hand turn from Southbound 9th St. can address any issues that above
suggestion raises with regards to access to/from Graves St.
Keep bicycles and pedestrian separate.
Make right hand lane a "Shared" bike and automobile lane.
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A safety divider separating the
pedestrian section from the cars would be a good idea.
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A railing, versus spaced posts, to
divide the pedestrians from the automobiles seems safer for the children
crossing.
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Make the bridge one vehicular lane
in each direction, and use the rest of the space to create a dynamic bicylce
and pedestrian zone, separated from the vehicular traffic by plantings and
other design devices.
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A flashing light in the crosswalk at
Spudnuts crossing is soooooo needed. People honk and try to run you over in
that crosswalk.
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Keep them out of auto traffic. Limit the pedestrian crosswalks to only
places where there are traffic lights.
Crosswalks that exist without being tied into the traffic light system
and overall traffic flow- pedestrians using those crosswalks impede the flow of
traffic, causing backups and congestion during peak auto usage hours.
Have a railing between the pedestrian parts of the bridge and the main roadway
to prevent pedestrians from crossing into traffic mid-bridge from one side to
the other (east to west and vice versa).
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Could a pedestrain easement be
placed on a lower level? Seperating pedestrians from cars and integrating into
the mall at different locations. By beefing up pillar weight capacity &
adding a pedestrain layer below the span.
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You can ride on the sidewalk, it's
only a few 100ft and you can stop and let others pass.
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Please make sure the railings
opposite the road are higher. I have
seen kids numerous times climb and crouch on the railings in quite a dangerous
manner.
Please make sure that bicycle lanes are included in the plan. My husband and
several neighbors and colleagues ride to work and depend on safe passage. The city is trying to be more progressive
with alternative transportation. Omitting bike lanes seems to be in opposition
to this goal.
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I live in Belmont and frequently
walk downtown with some or all of my 4 children. I have been doing this walk
with children for 10 years and it still makes me nervous. My children often
have scooters or bikes with them and will zoom ahead of me on the sidewalk. The
cars are very close to the children when they drive by. I am always concerned
that one of my children will wreck on their bike or scooter as they are
crossing the bridge and fall off the curb into traffic. With all of that said,
I would love to see some kind of barrier between the sidewalks on either side
and the lanes of cars that would prevent pedestrians from falling off the curb
directly into traffic. In addition, a higher rail on the outside of the bridge
would be welcomed. I think if there was a safer crossing of the bridge, more
parents would enjoy walking downtown and feel comfortable letting
age-appropriate children walk or ride downtown on their own.
Also, a flashing crosswalk at the main pedestrian crossings, with a sizable
median to wait for traffic, at each end of the bridge would be very helpful.
Again, it is sometimes challenging to cross the road during high traffic
volumes while pushing a stroller, holding a little ones hand and/or directing
multiple kids on scooters or bikes.
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i am 12 years old and i walk
downtown with my friends a lot and i think that having a barrier and maybe a
crosswalk to cross from on side to the other would make it a safer and more
enjoyable walk downtown
thank u and have a nice day
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In order for bicycle commuters to
adequately use the bridge the bike lanes need to be on each side of the road
and set up in such a way so bicycles are safe to make left turns onto Market as
well as go straight through the intersection.
A shared bike/pedestrian lane will not work for those commuting by
bicycle and will result in the bikes back in traffic as they are now (option
C.)
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--Ideally incorporate a network of
safe sidewalks/trails that extend from the bridge/downtown mall all the way
down Avon Street to the Albemarle subdivisions (Mill Creek, Lakeside Apts,
etc), the future Biscuit Run State Park, and the Saunders-Monticello
Trails. (How incredible would it be to
be able to safely bike/jog/hike all the way from the downtown mall, to the
future state park, and on to Monticello?!)
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Suggestion Three: I prefer a design with two lanes in each
direction, with on-road bike facilities in each direction, and a sidewalk ONLY
on the West side of the bridge.
Rationale: Almost all pedestrians walk on the West side anyway, since we’re
heading to/from the Downtown Mall. The
sidewalk on the East side of the bridge is unnecessary, and the space should be
used to allow on-road bike paths on each side instead, facilitating smooth bike
commuting. The problem with the
West-side shared bike/pedestrian facility plan is that it would require bikers
to engage in two dismounted/risky crossings of all lanes of traffic. This bridge is critical to the future of
C'ville bike commuting--we should include excellent and safe bike facilities.
Suggestion Four: Create additional
pedestrian access from Belmont neighborhood to Downtown Mall during
construction (and beyond?) by creating a temporary pedestrian crossing of train
tracks at the very end of Monticello Road that leads to Lexis-Nexis tunnel
entrance to Pavilion.
Rationale: This would be a low-cost way
to provide an alternative, more pleasant, perhaps safer, construction-zone-free
pedestrian access to the Downtown Mall during the bridge replacement project.
Suggestion Five: At least one if not
both of the crosswalks at the South end of the bridge should have embedded
lights. This would greatly improve
pedestrian safety.
Suggestion Six: This would be a great
time to build the rails/trails bike facility under the bridge, and connect it
to the bike lanes crossing the bridge, leading to a new set of bike
racks/storage outside the transit center.
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Make wider sidewalks with a higher
curb to shield people from cards. Also
find a way to reduce speeds on the bridge.
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I just want to do anything possible
to encourage walking and biking on the bridge.
And shade is of great benefit for anyone walking in the summer months.
I suggest on the sides of the bridge
SHADE trees, and not the standard Crepe
Myrtles, which are nice, but don't
shade enough.
Maybe some grand Magnolias at each
end?
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increase separation between vehicle
traffic and pedestrians. pedestrians
should not be made to feel that they need to get off the bridge as quickly as
possible for their safety - allow for a leisurely stroll and enjoy the view.
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I heard of ideas of having only one
pedestrian walkway. Please still have the west and east pedestrian walkway when
you built a new bridge. I understand that the west walkway has more usage,
however for those of us who use the east side, it will be a great inconvenience
to have to cross the bridge twice in order to get to my destination. This also
poses additional risks of having to cross the bridge twice. We should all learn
to share a walkway, giving space to strollers, wheelcahirs and dogs on the
walkways, I don't see a need for an extra wide walkway, this will only make us
less interactive as residents. Bicyclist should be allowed to share the walkway
with pedestrian, this is common in other countries I have visited.
Bottomline - we should all share the little city we live in.
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For the sake of safety, would there
be anyway to separate the bike path and pedestrian walkways from the flow of
traffic?
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A protected walkway that has a guard
rail or chain link fence to protect walkers from traffic would be
wonderful. This bridge is very important
to people who work downtown. We need to
keep pedestrian access going.
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For pedestrian safety on a bridge, I
think it's important to have a significantly raised sidewalk, more so than in
other areas. And significantly higher than in your current design (side view
with elevations). If a car was to lose
control and veer onto the sidewalk, there is no where to go but into the street
or over the railing. I believe in your
current design, you are already planning to extend the height of the railings,
which I think will also help. In a
strong wind, for example, or if one was to temporarily lose their balance,
there is some danger of someone falling over the currently installed railing.
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Railing between the road and
sidewalk.
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Bike access should be on grade from
all connecting intersections/streets. Do
not share bike access w/ pedestrians.
Bikes are more likely to get hit by cars when entering road from
sidewalk than when on road all the time.
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I believe that roundabouts ought to
be considered at the adjacent intersections. Pedestrian counts strongly suggest
that pedestrian travel should be routed along the west side of the bridge,
where the Downtown Mall access is. It would be very helpful if adjacent land
were redeveloped to front on the bridge, creating an attractive pedestrian
landscape that extends the Mall.
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A curb divider between the bike lane
and roadway.
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I like Design C
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I live in Belmont and a
walkover/crossover over the tracks to the Downtown Mall (extended) would cut
pedestrian traffic on the BB enormously and be a much safer alternative for all
concerned. Thanks.
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bicycle lanes on both sides, along
with sidewalks is supreme.
west side pedestrian sidewalk larger than east side definitely.
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Please include dedicated bike lanes
for both north and southbound traffic lanes. This is a very heavily used biking
area. Can we put bike bollards on the bridge cut-out adjacent to the pavilion?
This would let bicyclists lock of their bikes before descending to the downtown
mall.
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PLEASE do not have a combined
bike/pedestrian path. Sidewalks AND bike
lanes can and should be accommodated on this bridge. Keep the bike lanes separate for the
pedestrians' safety and to make biking across the bridge quicker and easier.
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The bigger the better -- as a
recently former resident of Graves Street, I used to walk over the Belmont
Bridge twice a day and consistently felt over-exposed to the cars racing
past. I would love to see a wider
sidewalk, the inclusion of a bike lane, and the installation of flashing
pedestrian crosswalk lights at the intersection of 9th/Avon and Monticello Ave
(near the Bridge PAI).
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I walk across the bridge all the
time (I live in North Belmont). I would
ride my bike more if there was a separate bike lane.
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Just that we need both bike and
pedestrians lanes on each side of the bridge
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I think bicycle lanes on each side
of the road would be ideal. I ride my bike to work using the belmont bridge and
currently cars going north will get in the left lane to go around me. This is
fine unless there is a lot of traffic, in which case I get squeezed in between
a vehicle and the sidewalk.
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additional development of vertical
stair access from both sides and both ends of the bridge should be considered.
In particular, stair access at the pavilion/ transit center should be
considered, especailly as an alternate route when access through public space
is denied due to paid/private events going on at the pavilion. Please consider
the incorporation of all special design elements, materials to be focused on
the pedestrian areas of the bridge where they will be of value and appreciated
and not for the vehicular.
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Maybe an area or two that would
provide shade (covered area over benches) to protect from the summer sun.
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This bridge is as much about
pedestrians as it is about cars. I would
have no trouble sacrificing a lane of traffic to provide wider sidewalks and
good separation between the sidewalk and road.
It would be great to have trees planted between the sidewalk and
roadway.
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bikes one side pedestrians on other
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Please provide some barrier between
pedestrians and traffic on the west side of the bridge. While this will add
some element of physical safety, it will go even further in adding a sense of
psychological safety and make walking across the bridge much more pleasant. It
is a highly traversed bridge, and the barrier - nothing monumental, just a
small division - will made a world of difference in the trip.
The current width of the pedestrian lanes in the above section do not seem
nearly wide enough. Close pedestrian traffic on the east side to widen on the
west. Take one lane out to make it wider on the west.
Thank you.
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A design with pedestrians and
cyclists in mind should have designated walks and lanes in each direction.
Option C is not a good one, as cycling lanes and sidewalks are not present on
both sides.
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I don't know if my suggestion is
"additional" or not, because I can't read the text on the ideas above. I can't see any notation that bike lanes have
been included in the plans. Bike lanes
are a must for this busy corridor between Belmont and Garrett and Downtown. I used to ride my bike to work over that
bridge and I still see people riding bikes across it. It would be much safer with a designated
lane.
Charlottesville often talks the talk of being more biker-friendly; this is a
real opportunity to walk the walk as well.
People in this community place a high value on pedestrian and bike
access.
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Sidewalk at least on the west side
so folks can get to and from the Pavilion without having to cross traffic in
the middle of the bridge.
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seperate, divided bike lanes.
lighted crosswalks, divider in middle of travel lanes on bridge.
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A bike lane should be added for
traveling in both directions by bike and it should be completely separate from
any foot traffic or vehicle traffic. The
bike lanes aught to be at least four foot in width for each direction.
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Both directions of traffic should
support safe bicycle passage and separate pedestrian passage. Appropriate
bicycle lanes beyond the bridge (which may be outside the scope of this
project) are necessary to truly provide safe cycling and prevent the bridge
bicycle lanes from being another random spot in the patchwork of bicycle
accommodation in Charlottesville.
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As a frequent biker from the Mill
Creek area to the Pantops area, I would love to see proper bicycle lanes put in
place. While it wouldn't be a huge inconvenience to only have a lane on just
one side (Option C), I would be concerned that space would run out during
Pavilion events when pedestrians are known to crowd the sidewalk area on that
side.
I prefer Option B.
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Wonder why you don't have pedestrian
on West side and cyclists oon east side...most folks walk on that side.
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I would recommend some sort of
railing/plantings to block and protect the sidewalk/pedestrian/bike area from
the vehicle lanes. Right now it feels a
bit dangerous as children are running along that sidewalk and cars are coming
right at them.
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See below...
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Let the designers do this, I am not
a designer or architect.
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use plain zebra striping at
crosswalks so there’s no doubt what they’re there for. Fix the pedestrian signals at Market St and
Levy/Garrett so they activate automatically with green lights rather than
making us wait an entire light cycle for a ‘walk’ sign. Long term, provide at-grade pedestrian x-ings
over RR tracks btwn Belmont and E Market.
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I'm concerned shared bike+ped path
would be too slow for bike commuters, and it means the bikers have to cross
back and forth over the busy street to get to the path. Bike lanes each way is
more encouraging to bikers.
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please make improvements to the
cross walk at the Monticello Road/Spudnuts crossing including signage and
flashing cross walk lights such as at other locations near the mall. Many people cross here rather than at the
traffic light at Garrett.
2. please include interior barriers or walls between the sidewalks and the
road. In the current configuration, we
feel exposed to traffic as we walk with kids across the bridge.
3. please raise the height of the exterior walls of the bridge from the current
height. we feel somewhat exposed walking
with our kids because the walls and barriers seem low enough to be a risk for
pedestrians.
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How about a study of bike traffic
over the bridge? I couldn't help but
notice that no such study was included in the preparation of these
materials.
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Possibly have a section for those
who want to sit on benches and then have a section for those "moving"
across the bridge at a faster pace.
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Green-light demand button for
bicycles at nearby intersections.
Dedicated bike lanes, not shared use.
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These two modes of circulation
should not have to share a common lane - bikes on the road, people on side
walks. You need a buffer between
pedestrians and vehicles. The bridge should
become more of an urban landscape.
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Please provide a nice, inviting,
pedestrian stair to street level at Water Street and Avon St. Ideally this stair should be accessible from
either side of the bridge so pedestrians are not tempted to cross the street. Best if they could be X-shaped, converging
under the bridge so that they could be used as a way to cross the street under
the bridge, especially at the Water Street side, where many pedestrians from
the Belmont side need to cross to enter the mall/pavilion.
It would be a good idea for the median barrier to be tall enough to discourage
pedestrians and (especially) from crossing the street. Very dangerous. Could it be a planter, or something
attractive??
Please contact me if you want to discuss this: Inova property owner
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street over tunnels other sculpted
bridge(s) over street
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As a cyclist and pedestrian, I
prefer the options with bike lanes and sidewalks on both sides of the bridge.
Also, it would be great to add easier pedestrian access to Water Street,
particularly since the transit station is right there. Perhaps this could be
combined with one of the pocket parks?
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It is important to have safe access
for pedestrian and bicycle traffic. It
may be advisable to create a separate pedestrian/bicycle bridge at another
location in addition to having routes across the bridge.
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_Regarding MMM’s aerial photographs
with the 3 lane option overlays:
Prefer Plan A or B with two on-road bicycle lanes and sidewalks on both sides
of the bridge. Do not want Plan C with shared use bike/pedestrian path. The
mixture of cycling and walking rarely works effectively and signals to car
drivers that bicycles do not belong on the road.
_Improve pedestrian signal and traffic light coordination at intersection of
bridge and Market Street.
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I prefer bike lanes to be on the
road and not on the sidewalk or linked within the pedestrian experience.
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just do what you can when you
can. again, absolutely delighted that
the city adopted a plan for "complete streets". i know money is tight, buildings do not move
just because you ask them to, etc.. just
keeping it in mind is key. i appreciate
my city government, i really do.
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A bike lane that is separate from
both the pedestrian lane and car lanes.
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have it and have it be a pleasure to
walk across this thing.
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Make pedestrian crossing from Graves
Street (in front of Spudnuts) over Avon Street safer by adding blink lights or
similar feature to highlight crossing.
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As noted above, something that
encourages biking and walking would be great. I walk, many people bike and
unless there is ample bike lane room the two, unfortunately don't go together.
I hate to be walking along the sidewalk and having to step aside for a bicycle
coming the other way or having the bicyclist have to jump the sidewalk to avoid
me..or having the bicyclist suddently come up from behind and around me...but
the streets in Belmont are narrow (horse and buggy style) and yet everyone
(myself sometimes included) drives.
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We must accommodate both. I am not
convinced we need pedestrian or bike lanes on both sides. If there is only one
pedestrian lane put it on west side closer to: mall, majority of businesses,
pavilion and add a stair down Water Street.
What if there were a wide (60”?) raised pedestrian only lane on the west side
and wide (60”?) flush cycle, jog lane with a narrow (30” ? non-ADA) pedestrian
lane on the east.
Could bike lane be a center raised lane to double as barrier between directions
or is that a bad idea?
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Barrier between bike and auto along
with raised median.
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Please, a bike lane! Please! That's
lit or has reflectors or something!
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Alternative "C" is
unacceptable to me as a cyclist. We just had this past spring a fatal accident
in the city due in part to a commuting cyclist riding off a sidewalk as if they
were in traffic; two-way sidepaths do not have commonly understood right-of-way
rules other than those for pedestrians. At a time when local bike advocates are
trying to encourage cyclists to ride safely in traffic, having the city
introduce a maze of pedestrian facilities with pedestrian right-of-way rules,
which are claimed to also be for bike use, is highly counterproductive.
To use the sidepath, cyclists heading from Belmont would have to cross the
entire width of the street, use the path while yielding to pedestrians who
could be occupying any part of it, and potentially cross the street again at
the north end. This increases the amount of interaction with cross traffic and
the resulting potential for accidents, as well as the inconvience to the cyclist.
It is a second class facility which relegates bike commuting to a second class
mode of transportation. Build a first class facility with bike *lanes* on the
road!
I know that as a cyclist, I would never use the path going northbound; I would
simply ride in the right lane of traffic instead. Alternative "C"
does not increase access or safety for experienced cyclists, who would simply
not use it as intended, nor for inexperienced cyclists, who would have trouble
negotiating the non-traffic right of way at each end, nor for pedestrians who
are better served by sidewalks on each side for pedestrian use alone.
Bike paths can be useful if they are part of a continuing network which
provides access along a corridor, but a path which goes all of two blocks across
a bridge and terminates directly back into traffic is worse than useless.
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It would be good to truly separate
the space for pedestrians from the space for cars. This could be done by adding
a railing on the street edge of the sidewalk.
It would make it safer for kids and more pleasant for all
pedestrians.
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Easy access connection to the bus
terminal
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Maintain pedestrian access to mall
when pavilion is in use.
Recognize and design the pedestrian ‘gateway’ condition from the bridge to the
mall at the pavilion.
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yes