-Redevelopment should be encouraged
to be brought up, vertically, to the street - buildings could have entrances or
parking on the lower level accessed from the rear and pedestrian entrances from
the bridge on an upper level.
· Forgot this in my previous comments: Provide bicycle parking along the bridge at the Mall entrance if there's still a wide spot there.
· It would be nice to turn that little nub sticking out by the pavilion, assuming it's still needed for a new bridge, into an amenity. Add some planters, maybe a little interpretive sign about the original railroad station or the Pavilion, and a bench.
· As money allows, I think we should incorprate artwork, and high quality design elements and materials into the bridge. The bridge sits at what often feels like the heart of the city and is seen by so many visitors and locals that it needs to be something we're all proud of and that improves Downtown and Belmont instead of being an eyesore.
We, in the neighborhoods adjacent to
the Pavillion, are STILL absorbing the detrimental effects of Pavillon noise
due to the fact that the City continues to waive the legal noise restrictions
for Pavillon "special events".
· The southbound lane should be one lane, rather than the existing two lanes. Having 2 lanes makes drivers think they're on a highway, when this is really a residential street linking 2 (3?) very pedestrian oriented neighborhoods.
Roundabouts at each end might help
with traffic flow.
· Pedestrian and cyclist safety is my biggest concern. The bridge as currently designed is an accident waiting to happen especially given the number of cars and people sharing this corridor.
· Has the city considered replacing the traffic signals at each end of the bridge with roundabouts? Compared to traffic signals, roundabouts are safer, reduce traffic congestion, and reduce fuel consumption (and pollution) by around 30% due to shortened stop times. See: http://www.iihs.org/research/qanda/roundabouts.html
· Crossing the street at spudnuts to access the mall side of the bridge is dangerous. Even without my children-- if cars do stop for pedestrians, I feel the need to not start crossing until I see the cars behind the stopped car slow down and stop because many times cars have gone AROUND the stopped car (which would hit me if I had trusted in my safety). And crossing one direction of traffic at a time is hard, because the median is so narrow. In short, that street crossing needs to be made more pedestrian friendly.
· The two crossings at Garrett and in front of Spudnuts are horrible and dangerous; thought should be given to improvement of traffic flow near crosswalks, signage, and crosswalk design. The streetlight that precedes the Spudnuts crossing makes that crossing dangerous, since drivers are reluctant to stop if (a) they just got a green light, or (b) they just sped through a yellow light.
· Wondering if there is a way you can make a separate turning lane for people turning left in front of fox's cafe going onto the bridge because i have see where accidents have almost occurred because of those turns and also it congests the bridge traffic. Thank you!
· Thank you for taking the communities input!
· Don't be penny-wise and pound foolish. If the bridge needs to be rebuilt do it right the first time so that it lasts for the next 100 years.
· Do not use future LOS projections to determine the capacity of this bridge. This is the gateway to downtown, and the critical link to Belmont, two of Charlottesville's most dynamic urban neighborhoods. Do not allow the free-flow of vehicular traffic determine how many lanes are needed on the bridge. Instead, think about it from the perspective of the human being, not the vehicle. Take the opportunity to become a world class city by designing a world class bridge. Start by reducing the number of vehicular traffic lanes on the bridge. Monticello Avenue is one lane each direction. High Street is 1 lane in each direction. There is no need for the bridge and the 2 blocks of 9th Street between Market and High to be 2 lanes in each direction. We need to shrink our streets and return them to people of Charlotteville, not their vehicles. If there is any place in our city where a little congestion should be tolerated, it is in our city center, where we want people to linger, not speed through in a vehicle.
· Please add more signage to bridge, ie.. "careful-- heavy pedestrian use" and "share the road" and other signs like these.
Looks like you didn't put as much
thought into the intersection operation at 9th and Garrett as you did at 9th
and Market. Meaning you put "More thought" into the "money end
of the bridge" (9th and Market) then you did at the "poverty side of
the bridge" (9th and Garret).
· I have walked under this bridge many times. There seems to be space at the existing height for a lower level. This would work nicely with the bus station and Belmont Neighborhood. I feel that the existing design lacks the necessary intermodal concepts and flexability for the future. Charlottesville can handle more aggressive public integration. Look at the mall more closely and integrate where possible into the design adapt the pocket parks for solar charging to support the LED lighting on the bridge. Grid interconnect and let the city sell the credits. Thats what Charlottesville likes. Do your homework on financing sources to pay for this. I know its tough trying to satify everyone. Excellent web outreach, thank you.
· Please use the money and resources to fix other areas of the city that are failing. Schools, unfinished hotels... Green space projects.
· Thank you for making the effort to obtain feedback and creating a simple forum for the feedback. This would be a useful tool with other projects that impact residential/ urban living.
· Pedestrian access seems good right now. Might the bridge have to be widened to include a separate bike lane?
Slightly higher guardrails are
needed, but should still allow kids to see through them.
Charlottesville is so
beautiful. Please use caution with this
bridge as it will be something that some people look at every day. Explore all options, sometimes the best
option isn't thought of or recommended.
Large evergreens at both ends of the
bridge, and along the base of the bridge.
· Please do not waste precious bridge real estate on a median or central planters! it is EXPENSIVE to build a bridge, let's maximize its traffic-moving capabilities (all modes). Bike lanes on BOTH sides is a must, as well as sidewalks - bike lanes provide the much-needed buffer between commute-minded motorists and vulnerable pedestrians. Potential uses for the space saved by not having a large median include a pedestrian boulevard on the west side of the bridge with planters and benches to enjoy the view, a mixed-use trail, or BOTH.
· Please do not turn this into something like the Meadowcreek Parkway circus that has taken 40+ yrs to complete. If we have the money, MAKE A DECISION and GET IT DONE. Thats what we pay you for.
· Please do not remove any trees that are already in place, especially the big tree on the west side at the southend.
· Designs look great! Thanks!
· I travel this way every day to and from work. Please use design choice A or B. One lane southbound is preferable to avoid unnecessary merging on the bridge. Likewise, the separate left turn lane onto Market from the bridge is necessary, particularly in the a.m., to avoid backups on the bridge.
· The free parking under the bridge would be lost to all employees that work in the downtown area. So if additional free parking will be available during the construction of the bridge replacement then there would be no problems.
· I applaud your efforts to gather public input in this process. I would recommend advertising all such meetings and events related to the bridge in local papers and with the surrounding neighborhood groups. If you have an email list related to this process, please add me: Xxxxxn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
The raised median seems to create an
· In sum, I am not convinced that this bridge which primarily moves single occupancy vehicles over sparsely used train tracks is worth the cost. If it really is better than at-grade, I would like to see something better than what we're losing, that supports the city's vision, and that doesn't kill the city budget for years to come.
· PLEASE don't incorporate any "modern" art resembling playschool toys. Although the transit building is modern and attractive perhaps we can have some traditional touches to tie into the "old" parts of the mall and Belmont. With just enough modern flair to match the transit building.
· Great website
· GOOD LUCK
· Knock it down and keep it that way. Belmontians should stay in belmont.
Thank you for soliciting public
If the eastern sidewalk will indeed
be closed until reconstruction of the bridge, (years?) then we need a nicer way
to block it off. The "temporary" chain link fence sections and
crossbuck construction barriers may do the job, but they look horrible. I
think nice looking barriers could be
constructed that would make pedestrians aware that the bridge is closed, but
have a non-offensive non-temporary look
that would be more aesthetically pleasing.
· I support option A for the bridge. We should actively seek to ENCOURAGE increased pedestrian and bike traffic between the heavy residential area of Belmont and the downtown mall area.
· Thank you for requesting citizen feedback!
· I'm simply concerned that the bridge may not be safe for another 6 years. Should it be closed now? I don't know how you would handle all that additional traffic on other roads, but I would hate for someone to be seriously injured or die because the bridge can no longer support the traffic burden.
· Please incorporate the study of particular bridge precedents (full projects rather than individual components) that are relevant to this particular bridge. Some of the images and conditions of public art that are currently presented seem less particularly relevant/applicable to this particular place. Please incorporate analysis that goes beyond arrangement of traffic lanes/ movements and that more carefully understands/considers the pedestrian patterns that exist and could be benefited by work on the bridge along with an idea about how the bridge functions as an important element of urban fabric within the broader urban context of charlottesville. I hope that forward thinking technology(lighting,materials structure) and sustainability (materials, size and mass of the bridge, stormwater management, climate and the human expereince of the bridge, heat island effect, etc) can be intelligently incorporated into the process of determining a new direction for the bridge becoming a memorable urban place. The new bridge should be forward thinking and anticipatory and derived from careful analysis and thoughtful design investigation.
· have other innovative/possibly lighter weight structural approaches been explored for the bridge? if not, why? Is there any place to submit precedents of other bridges for consideration in this project as examples for study? many of the images on the boards just don't seem relevant, appropriate or current. I hope that this bridge will be much more than what is currently suggested which seems like a very simple strurctrue with a variety of potential applied ornamentation (almost all of which seem dated at best). I hope that this process will engage a more expanded, integrated and context based analysis that will yield a more integrated and resolved project.
First things first! Please place ramps at Avon Street extended
for I 64 access so travelers both ways will have the option of going around
construction to get to school, work, etc instead of having to go through
town. This should cut down considerably
of traffic problems as you proceed to do construction on this extended project! This should cut down on 50% of traffic issues
as you proceed!
· Hopefully this will be a long term change so inclusion of efficient lighting would be beneficial and environmentally responsible. Any thoughts of built in light along the walkways for pedestrians?
· do what u can to reuse what u can, taxes are to high now, especialy in belmont. my taxes have doubled in the last ten years and i dont see what i get out of it but a hard time...
· Functionality above all else!
· This project needs to take into account future growth for the city. As the plan stands this has not been taken into account. It seems as if it is just a replacement of the bridge. If we want the city to grow we must design a bridge that will allow for higher flow volumes. The only plan stated that will even try to accomplish this is the two lane nb & sb but the sb interior lane is also a turn lane. This will still obstruct traffic for those turning into the neghborhood. How about making the exit to the neghborhood a right only and make the sb lanes straight only? On another note why don't we focus on starting the Charlottesville portion of the Medowcreek Parkway so the county section can be reopened and used instead of sitting, as it currently is? basically the traffic problems in this town will never be solved until we acknowadge that our city is growing faster than our infustructure can keep up.
· The big snarls happen when folk need to left turn onto Garret from Northbound Avon/9th without a concomitant green light and green arrow and going Southbound (only 1 lane to go straight) past the Market street light and onto the bridge.
· LED street lights, Brick exterior/siding. blend into downtown atmosphere
I am very discouraged with the way
Dave Norris and the rest of City Council (and City Manager) have handled the
excess money Charlottesville has seen over the last two years. In my opinion, if government has a surplus at
the end of the fiscal year, that means they are overtaxing their citizens! The surplus really needs to go back to the
TAX-PAYING citizens of Charlottesville in the form of tax-rate reductions. However, because I know this will never
happen, I propose a different idea.
Instead of Charlottesville using the extra money to "tip" city
employees ($750.00 gifts vs. Albemarle County's more responsible approach of
$350.00) or fund more ridiculous welfare programs to those who find it easier
to depend on government rather than earn an honest living, why not channel that
money into fixing things around Charlottesville, for example, THE BELMONT
BRIDGE. Stop waiting for grant money or
handouts from the federal government and start taking some initiative with the
surplus you continue to experience each year.
If I am going to be overtaxed, I want the overtaxed money to go to good
use. The Belmont Bridge is a major
safety concern and needs to be addressed NOW, not three to four years from
now. And while you’re at it, start
working on your portion of the Meadowcreek Parkway.
· As a daily pedestrian commuter, I frequently walk along the Belmont Bridge. However, I often choose to walk down Garrett Street instead because at rush hour, walking on the bridge can feel like walking unprotected next to a highway. I hope the structural repairs are accompanied by environmental and safety improvements for non-vehicular travelers, and appreciate the considerations already expressed in the above images.
This forum that you all have created
is really wonderful. Very clear, easy to navigate and a job well done. Just
wonder why with all of this Belmont is still waiting for some speed bumps...no
this is not the place but when Woolen Mills has one at every corner....you
Make sure the cross-walks get
attention - there are a lot of children who cross here. The more plantings the better!
Thank you for allowing us to submit
our thoughts on this important project.
As someone who uses the bridge frequently, both in my car and on foot,
I've given the bridge replacement project a great deal of thought over the past
few years. I'm tried to summarize some
of those thoughts here. -
· I once found a dead cat on the Belmont Bridge which no one ever took away. After more than a week, in the heat of summer, I collected this cat (and all the dead kittens inside her) into a plastic bag and had it cremated. This cost me $65. I had already called to have the body removed, but it never was.
· next time use a local architect/landscape architect.
· For long term planning probably makes sense to have 2 car lanes each way (and bike paths both ways). Aesthetic concerns are important since the bridge is in a prominent location.
· we would like the bridge to be safe, convenient and attractive for the pedestrian traffic.
The usefulness of bike lanes is
significantly diminished, even nullified at times, when filled with road debris
(gravel, broken glass, car parts, etc.).
The city needs to plan, commit, and follow through with regular clearing
of the BIKE LANES, not just on the bridge but throughout the entire city.
· I prefer option C because of the merge lane on the west side of the bridge.
· Motorists tend to accelerate on this bridge but it is flanked by two high-pedestrin use intersections so speed should actually be discouraged.
· Since the bridge was rebuilt, the city has changed a lot at this end of the mall and the neighborhoods around it have changed too. In a city with as many design professionals as we have, I am confused about how such a project isn't more inclusive of that community or doesn't get advertised more publicly before a firm is selected. This project would benefit from a thoughtful team that includes an architect, a landscape architect and an urban planner on it - not just an engineering firm.
Children love to watch the trains.
It would be ideal if the bridge railings were not solid concrete/stone and
could provide a view to the rails below for those under 4' tall.
Two southbound lanes are a must,
especially when there's plenty of space for an extra southbound lane. If you've ever tried to drive south over the
bridge during 5:00 traffic you'll agree.
· I'd suggest that the city consider installing a durable, attractive fence along both sides of the railroad track to SCREEN the view of the rail yard and to direct pedestrians away from the tracks, over the bridge.
Green growth depends on landscape
changes and alternative flow options. A centrally located farmer /craft market
doubles as parking (Belmont side) which could have charging facility for
vehicles, they're coming, lets be prepared.
_This bridge needs to read as a
modern structure built in the 21st century. It should not be designed as a
nostalgic interpretation of what would have been built early in the last
· With the redevelopment of the Belmont neighborhood + the pavilion + the mall the bridge has become very active with pedestrians. I think the pedestrian experience should be very gracious and an opportunity to link it to the mall experience in terms of the materials palette. I like that the idea that the bridge become it's own lovely experience from the pedestrian point of view so some richer materials, art in place and lots of plants.
· maybe add a viewing/listening balcony for folks to enjoy the free sonic drift from shows at the pavilion? ha!
· be alive and be an architectural highlight of the city!!! not just a bridge - a landmark. Really invest in something that does more than gets you over the railroad - shops in it (like the Ponte Vecchio in Florence - why not), architectural significance (like the Brooklyn Bridge), a meeting place (like the Charles Bridge in Prague).
· Pylons with lanterns such as on Memorial Bridge in Roanoke or the Connecticut Ave Bridge that spans Rock Creek Park Washington, DC
· Replace bridge, not just fix existing bridge, as soon as possible, current bridge is an eyesore and a safety hazard.
· The development is Charlottesville, particularly in the downtown/Belmont area is overwhelming. I've been here for 20 years and thank goodness I bought my house when I did. Couldn't afford to buy it today. And what of all the empty houses for sale? Too bad we can't seem to do less with fancy condos and big houses and more with affordable SROs or just affordable 1-2 bedroom units for folks who are struggling/ don't get enough on an SSI check to rent a room! I hope that the new bridge, if it's going to cost 9 million... is worth the money spent again encouraging biking and walking!
The shape of the bridge maybe most
visible at night so lighting design is key and should not be an afterthought.
Input from professional lighting designers may be useful.
· Possible high wall/buffer for Pavilion for sound attenuation.
· What ever you do, make a decision and do it. Don't wait decades to get the job done with study after study.
· Bonus: make it a toll bridge and charge the county residents for their daily automobile commutes...city residents, RT.20 travelers and ped/bikes are free.
· ALTERNATIVE "C" IS UNACCEPTABLE. Please build alternative "A" or "B" with ON-ROAD BIKE LANES!
· The bridge is a wonderful opportunity to extend the welcoming feel of the downtown mall to the surrounding neighborhood. I encourage the designers to think of ways to use the bridge as a way to extend the downtown mall toward downtown Belmont.
· Please avoid planters (especially enormous ones like on mall) – any planting could be accommodated much more elegantly at grade on the bridge through the use of a green roof system.
· call me.